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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-251554</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting peptide chemistry indeed - not often published in JACS.  You would be surprised at how many un-natural amino acids (protected and unprotected) can just be bought today.  You can take a look at http://www.peptideresource.com/ - they have a peptide synthesis reagent supplier list.  They are also a lot of vendors listing specialty coupling reagents and peptide synthesis grade sovlents.  Long live peptide synthesis chemistry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting peptide chemistry indeed &#8211; not often published in JACS.  You would be surprised at how many un-natural amino acids (protected and unprotected) can just be bought today.  You can take a look at <a href="http://www.peptideresource.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peptideresource.com/</a> &#8211; they have a peptide synthesis reagent supplier list.  They are also a lot of vendors listing specialty coupling reagents and peptide synthesis grade sovlents.  Long live peptide synthesis chemistry!</p>
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		<title>By: Finally&#8230;Total Synthesis:NOS Day 4 at C&#38;ENtral Science</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-245616</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally&#8230;Total Synthesis:NOS Day 4 at C&#38;ENtral Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in mind (chemoselectivity in syntheses) and he used examples from several molecules his team has tackled to drive that point home. I won&#8217;t go into all the stories he talked about (others have done a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in mind (chemoselectivity in syntheses) and he used examples from several molecules his team has tackled to drive that point home. I won&#8217;t go into all the stories he talked about (others have done a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyoto</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-238618</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 08:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely a nice total synthesis and the approach solves almost all problems associated with its large scale synthesis. Also, it provides a facile synthetic route for modifying the prime core of the target; which may allow determination and improvement of any biological activities possible for analogous compounds. JACS is fine for it. One question: I read here that some papers are not fit for JACS. Can someone tell me what we expect in JACS???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely a nice total synthesis and the approach solves almost all problems associated with its large scale synthesis. Also, it provides a facile synthetic route for modifying the prime core of the target; which may allow determination and improvement of any biological activities possible for analogous compounds. JACS is fine for it. One question: I read here that some papers are not fit for JACS. Can someone tell me what we expect in JACS???</p>
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		<title>By: PC</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-237977</link>
		<dc:creator>PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 100

TNPB,

I just want to make it to 100... Seems you don&#039;t like Baran&#039;s chemistry... This is the first synthesis of Kapakahines B and F (in gram scale). It may also be the most efficient synthesis for the next 5 or 10 years. Must be a JACS paper.</description>
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<p>TNPB,</p>
<p>I just want to make it to 100&#8230; Seems you don&#8217;t like Baran&#8217;s chemistry&#8230; This is the first synthesis of Kapakahines B and F (in gram scale). It may also be the most efficient synthesis for the next 5 or 10 years. Must be a JACS paper.</p>
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		<title>By: InfMP</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-233928</link>
		<dc:creator>InfMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JACS publishes overall too many articles. I like reading Angew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JACS publishes overall too many articles. I like reading Angew.</p>
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		<title>By: Tok</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=1#comment-230191</link>
		<dc:creator>Tok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My respect for Angew went down a few notches after the JJLC incident, and continues to go down every day I hear nothing from them.  Sorry if I&#039;m opening old wounds.  That being said,  I read Angew just as often as JACS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My respect for Angew went down a few notches after the JJLC incident, and continues to go down every day I hear nothing from them.  Sorry if I&#8217;m opening old wounds.  That being said,  I read Angew just as often as JACS.</p>
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		<title>By: Tok</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=1#comment-230190</link>
		<dc:creator>Tok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Einstein.  Newton stole credit for a lot of stuff from Hooke after he died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Einstein.  Newton stole credit for a lot of stuff from Hooke after he died.</p>
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		<title>By: Tok</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=1#comment-230048</link>
		<dc:creator>Tok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An enantiospecific reaction is one in which the enantiomer of the s.m. determins the product.  For example, if you start with R and the product is S, then if it is enantiospecific, S s.m. will give you R product.
An Sn2 reaction is enantiospecific, whereas an Sn1 reaction is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An enantiospecific reaction is one in which the enantiomer of the s.m. determins the product.  For example, if you start with R and the product is S, then if it is enantiospecific, S s.m. will give you R product.<br />
An Sn2 reaction is enantiospecific, whereas an Sn1 reaction is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Totally Natural</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=2#comment-229851</link>
		<dc:creator>Totally Natural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There we go again. Nobody has to fall in love with a synthesis to make it JACS worthy. Look at what else goes to JACS, especially in the nano-bio arena, not to mention &quot;new methodology&quot; where a group or catalyst X is replaced by Y in a well known, often name reaction, and oops JACS commun after filling a Table with whatever works well. How many of these methods actually solve some serious synthesis problem?   And how many represent even a minor improvement over existing methods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There we go again. Nobody has to fall in love with a synthesis to make it JACS worthy. Look at what else goes to JACS, especially in the nano-bio arena, not to mention &#8220;new methodology&#8221; where a group or catalyst X is replaced by Y in a well known, often name reaction, and oops JACS commun after filling a Table with whatever works well. How many of these methods actually solve some serious synthesis problem?   And how many represent even a minor improvement over existing methods?</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
		<link>http://totallysynthetic.com/blog/?p=1654&#038;cpage=1#comment-229800</link>
		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can an &#039;enantiospecific&#039; process even exist - if you started with enantiopure materials (such as amino acids or sugars) and performed only coupling reactions that did not involve the stereocentres then you would get a specific enantiomer of the product, but I don&#039;t see peptide chemists calling all their syntheses enantiospecific.

If you do a stereospecific reaction (i.e. the mechanism dictates the stereochemical outcome, so feeding in one enantiomer/diastereomer gives one product, but feeding in the opposite stereochemistry gives the corresponding opposite result) then you are not guaranteed 100% selectivity, as there can be competing reaction pathways that are not specific (Check out Ian Fleming&#039;s work on silanes - masterful!)

so my question remains - what, if anything, does enantiospecific mean? 

As European Chemist rightly this is a diasteroselective synthesis - admittedly a rather impressive one with some interesting observations about equilibria and formation of the heterocycles. It&#039;d be interesting to ask prof Baran (or the relevant student/post-doc) what he meant when he wrote it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can an &#8216;enantiospecific&#8217; process even exist &#8211; if you started with enantiopure materials (such as amino acids or sugars) and performed only coupling reactions that did not involve the stereocentres then you would get a specific enantiomer of the product, but I don&#8217;t see peptide chemists calling all their syntheses enantiospecific.</p>
<p>If you do a stereospecific reaction (i.e. the mechanism dictates the stereochemical outcome, so feeding in one enantiomer/diastereomer gives one product, but feeding in the opposite stereochemistry gives the corresponding opposite result) then you are not guaranteed 100% selectivity, as there can be competing reaction pathways that are not specific (Check out Ian Fleming&#8217;s work on silanes &#8211; masterful!)</p>
<p>so my question remains &#8211; what, if anything, does enantiospecific mean? </p>
<p>As European Chemist rightly this is a diasteroselective synthesis &#8211; admittedly a rather impressive one with some interesting observations about equilibria and formation of the heterocycles. It&#8217;d be interesting to ask prof Baran (or the relevant student/post-doc) what he meant when he wrote it&#8230;</p>
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